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Tuesday, November 9
Updated: November 12, 1:44 PM ET
 
'Tantamount to treachery'

Don King has never been at a loss for words. Recently on Up Close, King said he was unfairly criticized after Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis fought to their controversial draw.

Don King
Don King's no dummy, and if you buy this fight he'll continue to prove it.
"I think it was tantamount to treachery for me to be blamed for a decision that I had nothing to do with," King told Gary Miller. "I had no input into the decision. I have no input into whatever the outcome of a fight will be."

King also made a prediction for the Holyfield-Lewis rematch, which will be held Saturday night in Las Vegas.

"I think Holyfield will knock him out or he (Lewis) will knock out Holyfield," King says. "But I'm saying that Holyfield will knock him out."

The following is an edited transcript of King's appearance on Up Close.

Miller: Don, I think you admitted, in fact, the statement that you made after the first bout is "I'm in the business of promoting fights not judging them. In the long run what is good for boxing and for my business are hard fought clean fights that keep people watching." Is it going to be different this time (for Holyfield-Lewis II)?

King: That's exactly what you are going to get here, and that's exactly what I said and what I said I mean. I think it was tantamount to treachery for me to be blamed for a decision that I had nothing to do with. I had no input into the decision. I have no input into whatever the outcome of a fight will be. All I do is promote it, hype it, get it in there and then they have got to fight and whatever happens from there, hey, that's what it is. That's what they've got judges for. But this fight here, I think because of that is going to be the best fight in the world because the fighters have to be accountable now. Each one is saying. "what I didn't do last time" that could have been different. Holyfield's saying "I wasn't prepared to do this" and after said "I want to go in there and get this guy." Lennox Lewis had him drunk but he didn't mug him. So he has got to blame himself for being apprehensive. He acquitted himself quite admirably, but he didn't go in for the finish. And so now these fighters themselves without anybody, any intervention, they have got to really go in there and make a decisive effort to come out as the undisputed champion of the world. I want to know. I know all the public wants to know. And that's why everybody in the universe, I welcome you again to go out and call your local cable operator and your closed circuit outlet to see Holyfield-Lewis "The Search for the Truth: Unfinished Business."

Miller: People might say that Holyfield didn't put his best effort forth and this was the plan all along because you get two gates this way.

The promotion was excellent, Gary. I took a lemon and made lemonade out of it.
Don King on Holyfield-Lewis draw
King:
No, two gates is immaterial about the gate. The gate would have been, had they had any way that fight went, I had the next fight. Many people didn't know that, but that was done. I didn't need no rematch for that. So the problem that they have there is the quality, the quintessential of the heavyweight championship, it was an unpopular decision, but not a corrupt decision. But I like to put on great undercard bouts just in case the main event is short.

Miller: Were you disappointed at what happened in the ring?

King: I was disappointed that the draw had such an upheaval because judging is subjective. And everyone, you find these decisions the same as what happened with Trinidad (Felix) and Oscar (De La Hoya). You really can't say. It's all human element there.

Miller: But I mean, with the fighters, were you disappointed in the effort of Holyfield, and like you mentioned, Lewis didn't put him away?

King: I was somewhat disappointed in their physical prowess and the approach that they took. That is why they can't take this approach now. So I urge you to call - the "Search for the Truth" is on everybody's lips around the world, on every cocktail table, every breakfast table, every church and Sunday school, because Holyfield being religious as he is. This is going to be a major fight that you must be able to watch. I want to know. I want to know who is the undisputed champion of the world. That's why I invited the New York Yankees, they are the undisputed champions of baseball, now I want them to come and see who will be the undisputed champion of heavyweight boxing. George Steinbrenner, I want you here. I love George Steinbrenner, he is a great guy.

Miller: Last fight you had (Donald) Trump, (Wayne) Gretzky was there, Jack Nicholson was there, Rev. Al Sharpton was there, Shapiro and Cochran were there. Do you feel bad that they didn't get what you had hoped that they might see in this fight?

King: The promotion was excellent, Gary. I took a lemon and made lemonade out of it. I had a real bad deal going in with HBO, but I worked, and the American people, you know they underestimate the infinite wisdom of the American people, the American people supported me and we had a tremendous show going until the decision came. When the decision came, they abandoned me like the bubonic plague, I didn't have a partner nowhere in sight, I stood all alone but I had God with me. And so God stood with me and he carried me through and I prevailed, so God is still with me and we are going to have this great return match which will be the court of appeals. If you had a decision that was disputed in the lower court now we are going to the court of appeals here in Las Vegas. That means these guys, will that decision hold or will you get a new decision, are you going to get a new decision? Because Holyfield has got to take on this guy, he don't like him now; see, he didn't have the acrimony before, he was this nice guy, well I'm going to knock him out in three (rounds). But hey, he didn't have no passion, no emotion to it. Now he's fighting for his life, Lennox Lewis, he is hard and arrogant, now very confident. He's going in to try to destroy Holyfield. But we beat the British in 1776, we'll beat them again in 1999, Holyfield will take it.

Miller: How do you feel when you hear Lennox Lewis say negative things about Don King fights?

King: He should be so happy, the most defining moment in his career was that controversy. Had he beaten Holyfield that evening they (the public) would say "well, he beat an old man." The guy was finished, he should have retired, you know what I mean. And there still wouldn't have been nothing, because as you know he was the invisible man. I put visibility to his invisibility, visualization. So he became a hero in England, he became a hero in America, he became the guy who has been victimized. So I look at him and I say God bless him, because he's okay. I understand that. The biggest fights in the world, the most money that's ever made have been with Don King. It is strange how people's minds can work in a way that you think there would be animosity and some type of bone of contention, but, he has made about 40 something million with me. When he fights away from me he makes a million and a half, two million, so he's been defined and I really am happy now because Holyfield gets another chance to see him. It will be a Don King fight where Holyfield knocks him out, I love it!

Miller: What about the De La Hoya and Trinidad.. (De La Hoya promoter) Bob Arum is balking at giving Trinidad a bigger share of the purse. I think the fight everyone want to see is Don King against Bob Arum, people would love it.

King: I would love it too. I would love it too. But let me say this to all the fans around the world. The fight is made, there is no problem about a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya and Trinidad. When we made the match, I told Arum, he said he was being fair with me. I said, make whatever deal you want because this will be the deal that we will repeat when we win. The passion in me and Felix Trinidad was of such strong dimensions that we said no matter what he gave us we would accept it, no matter how he did us we would accept it. And under the auspices of fair play, if you say that's fair play, great. So when reciprocity comes into play then if we win then we want you to put our name where your name is and Trinidad where Oscar's is. He said okay, that's fair enough.... Okay, so we went on it, we relied on what he said. Now we won, ain't nothing to do but just change the names, trade the places and the deal is done. Every detail has already been discussed. And then on the third fight, if he should be fortunate enough to come up and make a decent showing, we'll do 50-50 on the third fight so there won't be no problem. So Arum is trying to seed the ground now, yesterday I lied, today I'm telling the truth. He's an admitted liar.

Miller: Let me ask you something not so joyous. The federal government for the third time is going after you Don, and part of Holyfield's belt is the IBF belt. The president and his son have been indicted on federal charges. Have you ever paid for rankings?

King: No, and let me tell you this here. You have to understand something, this is where I know that ESPN is so important to all Americans and all the sports fans that listen around the world. An indictment is only an accusation, it's only an allegation. Anybody who don't like you can come up and tell a story, and you are susceptible to any type of authoritative police department, FBI, they can put an indictment on you. You see it in the New York Times all the time, they can incite a loaf of bread. You know what I mean, its nothing. No one wants it because its uncomfortable, it means that you have to spend money (Miller: A lot of money) you have to defend yourself. But think about America man, here is what I want you to understand and all the fans that are listening and viewing ESPN. In any other country they used to have the Catholic Inquisition, or an inquisition per se. The mere fact that you were called before the bar of judgment destroyed you and your whole family. It was almost the same as it was like in Nazi Germany. When the Gestapo came to get you, whether you were innocent or not, the mere fact that the Gestapo came for you was the end of it, you got destroyed. In America you have recourse, redress you have the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment, its working for you so you get a chance to face your accuser, you get judged by your peers. So don't get so excited about all these indictments; its a way of life.

Miller: No, I'm not, but its a pattern here and as you know you're probably tired of the government coming after you, you probably feel like there's a vendetta of some sort, would you cut a deal - (King interrupts)

King: I'm so happy you said that Gary, because if I said it, it would have been self-serving. Ray Charles can see it with me! When I was born black I was indicted, I understand it but I say "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty!" Yes!

Miller: Would you cut a deal to avoid prosecution, (King: No) to testify against the IBF?

King: No, why would I, that's what Arum does, he is the most deal cuttingest what they call a sidewinder that you have ever seen. He runs with the hares and then he hunts with the hounds. He aids and abets and I think that's a criminal offense too. But somehow they got myopia, they look the other way. He is a self-admitted briber.

Miller: Do you think this will come to trial?

King: It probably will come to trial but I think they will be exonerated and vindicated. If they are as clean as I am and I don't ever get caught doing nothing, then they could do it. But its what we are susceptible to, you can look like they would be guilty. I understand that but I love America, white and black alike so they can say what they want. But I'm telling you that it's only an allegation and an accusation, he's got to meet a jury of his peers to be a conviction.

Miller: This fight (Holyfield-Lewis) is going to be considerably, different don't you think?

King: Yes it will, this is going to be the greatest fight in the heavyweight division?

Miller: Do you think it will go the distance?

King: No, I don't think it will go the distance, I think Holyfield will knock him out or he (Lewis) will knockout Holyfield. But I'm saying that Holyfield will knock him out. It's going to be a great fight, we call it "Search for the Truth: Unfinished Business" The business will be finished on November the 13th Saturday night from Las Vegas.





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